Gun Control Debate Part Four: No one is trying to take your guns.

Settle down, Wild Bill, nobody is trying to take your guns away.

No one is talking about taking your guns.

No one wants to ban all guns etc.etc. etc…

What proponents of this argument are actually stating is that no governmental agency is going door-to-door registering or confiscating citizen’s firearms. Further they are insinuating that there is no desire or credible plan to do so. True, unless you happen to live in Washington State and own an “evil,” firearm. If Washington Senate Bill 5737 passes, county sheriffs can knock on the doors of homes with registered “assault weapons,” enter without a warrant, and make sure they’re “secure.” Is this a Fourth Amendment violation?  Washington “assault weapons” law

Americans are by and large a people who have been insulated from the unrelenting realities of war and the constant insecurities of conflict. This is not the case throughout most of the world. Americans have received the benefits of this isolation from the gifts of geography and the establishment of an amazingly professional military, law enforcement, and judicial apparatus. The system is not perfect but it is very good. Unfortunately, as a result of this isolation Americans tend to disregard some parts of reality. Evil exists in the world and tyranny is a trap for the unwary.

There are quite a number of societal elites who believe that they know better than the great and unwashed masses. Many of them do not want US citizens to be armed. A portion of the average population also does not believe that citizens should be armed. Why should they? Americans have by and large abrogated the responsibility for their own safety and welfare to others, and very successfully at that. Divorce from the necessities of their own defense has made people comfortable with the idea of being taken care of. As a result there are those that want every firearm in the United States confiscated. Some will say so out loud, some behind closed doors, some only in their heart of hearts. I prefer the ones with the intellectual honesty to say what they mean, no matter how much I disagree with them.

Senator Diane Feinstein:

“If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out-right ban, picking up every one of them… ‘Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ’em all in,’ I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren’t here.”   CBS-TV’s “60 Minutes”, February 5, 1995

Attorney General Eric Holder:

In 1995 Eric Holder, then the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, wanted to start a campaign to: “really brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way.”  Brainwash

Andrew Cuomo, Governor of New York:

“Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it.” confiscation

I have not included quotes from anti-gun media personalities such as Piers Morgan and his fellow travelers. I simply don’t have the inclination or the room.

Calling for the destruction of one of our constitutional foundations is constitutionally protected under the First Amendment, highlighting one of the great strengths and ironies of our system. Speech that is meant to contravene the Bill of Rights is protected by the same document. However, the fact that patently un-constitutional ideas are voiced by elected leaders of the United States government, who took an oath to support and defend the Constitution, is disturbing. What is even more disturbing is that these same politicians continue to be elected.

Others repeatedly and knowingly start down the path of gun removal by slowly banning or regulating firearms and accessories. Of particular interest are the often ignored actions of state legislators. Some that wish to disarm American citizens will only discuss the idea behind closed doors. Unless we have an open mike moment like this one-Confiscate– we can only discover their intentions by the legislation that they introduce. State by state break down below:

California:

California’s gun laws were arguably the most draconian in the entire union until New York passed their recent NYSAFE act. Some of the highlights in California are a continuing “assault weapons” ban, ten round limits on detachable magazines, and an extremely expensive and onerous process to acquire a concealed carry permit. I could get into details but it would take a lot more space and frankly the ignorance makes my head hurt. For a pervasive and knowledgeable discussion of California’s gun laws spend some time on the forums here:  http://www.calguns.net/

Of interest to the discussion at hand is one of the newest pieces of legislation within the California senate.  CA SB 374 classifies any rifle fed via a removable magazine as an “assault weapon.” The bill specifically includes rimfire rifles as part of the legislative language. It would require bans on all new sales and registration of existing rifles. For those that are unfamiliar with firearms terminology, the term rimfire refers to a cartridge that is ignited by the firing pin of a firearm striking the rim at the base of the cartridge. This is opposed to centerfire cartridges where the firing pin of the firearm strikes a primer in the center of the cartridge base. Modern rimfire cartridges are typically small and inexpensive, the most common being the ubiquitous .22LR. Because of light recoil, reduced ranges, and inexpensive ammunition rimfire firearms are typically used to train new shooters and children. Many shooters also do a majority of their fundamental training using rimfire firearms. They are simply a heck of a lot of fun to shoot.

Rimfires are certainly not “assault weapons.” These guns cannot be classified as “assault weapons,” by the professional definition of the term we discussed in part two of this series. Until recently, they could not even be classified as “assault weapons” by any politicized definition of the term. To call rimfire rifles “assault weapons,” is an outrageous exaggeration of an already hyperbolic term. It is a blatant attempt to make the most innocuous of firearms illegal. This is the problem with lack of firearms literacy and the incorrect usage of terminologies. If we allow legislators to use nebulous and elastic terms to describe firearms, then they can subsequently apply these terms to anything.  But don’t worry; no one is trying to take your “normal” guns. Until it become politically feasible to classify them as “assault weapons.”

More ignorance and fear-mongering here: Restrictions in California

Colorado:

Effective July 1 2013, background checks will be required for all private sales. In addition it will be unlawful to possess, sell, or transfer any “large capacity magazine.” (The arbitrary number is 15- Gun Control Debate Part Two)Except for all of the magazines that Colorado residents already own.  More than half of Colorado’s elected sheriff’s are mounting a legal challenge to these restrictions. The sheriffs understand that these laws are unenforceable and an infringement upon the rights of citizens.  Colorado Sheriffs  

Because of these restrictions  Magpul, which employs more than 200 people and generates about $85 million worth of taxable income, has left the state. Magpul leaves Colorado  HiViz Shooting Systems is also moving to Laramie, Wyoming.

Connecticut:

Following the Sandy Hook shooting lawmakers in Connecticut used an emergency certification to expedite the passage of new gun laws. These laws added over one-hundred firearms to the State’s already existing “assault weapons,” ban and required registration of existing “assault weapons.”  They limited magazine capacity to ten rounds and required anyone possessing a magazine holding more than ten rounds to register it. (How the hell does one register a magazine anyway? Most do not even have serial numbers) The new laws mandate background checks for any firearms sales and require documentation of any sale , including private transfers, with the Orwellian-titled, Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection. In addition to all of these requirements, anyone buying ammunition, a long gun, or a shotgun, must present a state-issued certificate documenting that they are allowed to do so. Gun manufacturers such as Colt, Sturm Ruger and Co, Stag Arms, and PTR are threatening to, or planning to leave the state, taking jobs and taxes with them. Gun manufacturers Leaving

Maryland:

Maryland approved a gun bill, going into effect on 1 October 2013, that bans the sale of 45 types of “military style” (at least their terminology is more correct, though still based on cosmetic features) semi-automatic rifles. Their gun law also limits magazine size to ten rounds and requires a government issued license, including the submission of the licensee’s fingerprints, to purchase a handgun. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/05/us/tighter-gun-rules-pass-the-maryland-legislature.html?_r=0

Massachusetts:

Massachusetts has put forth “An Act To Strengthen and Enhance Firearms Laws in the Commonwealth. http://www.mass.gov/governor/legislationeexecorder/legislation/an-act-to-strengthen-and-enhance-firearms-laws.html

This act was signed by Governor Martin O’Malley on 16 May 2013, as I was writing this. It limits magazine capacity from the current 10 to 7 rounds. It limits gun purchases to one per month, with any more than one being a felony offense. The act subjects all firearms transfers to a background check. Gun shows must report every seller at a gun show to the Department of Criminal Justice Services and pay a $500 fee. In addition to all of this; air guns, BB guns, paintball guns, and NERF guns (yeah, that last one is not a typo) may not be possessed on any school property. Any staff or administrators at a school who fail to report a violation are subject to a $500 fine. Great, now children with NERF guns are criminals, as are administrators and teachers who fail to rat them out to the government. Don’t they have better things to do in the Commonwealth?

Missouri:

Legislators in Missouri introduced a bill that would give owners of legally purchased and owned “assault weapons” or “large capacity magazines” (their arbitrary round count is 10) 90 days to:

a)      remove the weapon or large capacity magazine from the state

b)      Render the weapon permanently inoperable

c)       Surrender the weapon or large capacity magazine to a law enforcement agency for destruction

This bill has a snowball’s chance in hell of passing but it has been proposed.http://www.examiner.com/article/missouri-democrats-propose-law-giving-gun-owners-90-days-to-turn-weapons

New York:

New York has enhanced their already draconian gun laws with the NYSAFE act. This act further restricts “assault weapons” by defining them according to one feature (again cosmetic) as opposed to the previous two, as well as mandating a police registry of the firearms. Owners of “assault rifles” or pistols must be “recertified” every five years to ensure that they are still within compliance with the law. It requires stores that sell ammunition to register with the state, run background checks on all purchases of ammunition, and keep an electronic database of ammunition sales. I can’t say definitively but I image that anyone buying an amount of ammunition that a government bureaucrat deems excessive should be expecting a visit from the NY State police.

The act establishes a state registry for private sales, excluding relatives. It restricts ammunition capacity to seven rounds instead of the current ten and mandates that owners of currently legal magazines sell them outside of the state within a year.  One man has already been arrested for having nine rounds instead of seven in his legally owned pistol. NY man arrested for two extra rounds

There is plenty more but these are the most egregious examples. If you care to read more go here: http://www.governor.ny.gov/nysafeact/gun-reform

Washington:

In Washington State the previously mentioned Senate Bill SB5737, if passed, would allow sheriffs to enter the homes of those with registered “assault weapons” sans warrant, and ensure that they are “secure.” No more than once a year though. It would also ban the sale of semi-automatic weapons that fed from detachable magazines, virtually all such weapons. Magazines that contain more than ten rounds would become illegal.

The list above is by no means comprehensive. I am certain that there are several states, personalities, or issues that I have missed. However, I hope that you take my point.

Australia:

Yes, I am well aware that Australia is an entirely different continent. However, gun-control advocates commonly espouse Australia’s gun ban as a template for the United States. For them the comparison is compelling. In 1996 a psychologically disturbed man used semi-automatic rifles to kill 35 people in Port Arthur, Tasmania. This was the cited as the cause for the subsequent governmental confiscation of over 700,000 semi-automatic weapons from the Australian people.  The political situation was very similar to the one in the US following Tucson, Aurora, and Sandy Hook. Vultures were circling, waiting for a tragedy to advance their agendas.

Arguments about the effects of the confiscation rage between both sides of the debate. I am not going to get into those because they mostly revolve around statistics and I am not a statistician. The key point often left out of this argument is the US Constitution, where the right to own firearms is concrete.

However, I want to use Australia as an example of what happens once gun-control advocates get their “assault weapons” bans. You see, they don’t declare victory, happy with their new utopia; they continue in their quest to disarm the populace, entirely. The gun control lobby in Australia seems to be gearing up to ban bolt action and single-shot rifles. I quote gun control advocate Philip Alpers, “Guns are a bit like a virus. You clamp down on one type of gun, another one pops up and you have to deal with that.” American gun control advocates are listening to those from Australia. Rebecca Peters, one of the key authors of the Australian gun confiscation, subsequently went on to work for the Open Society Institute, a New York City based private foundation funded by George Soros. An interview with her on NPR following the Sandy Hook shooting inspired me to buy two more evil black rifles. Follow the links and draw your own conclusions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Peters

http://newsbusters.org/node/9336

Australia gun lobby after bolt-action rifles

United Kingdom:

The UK is another example of gun legislation that anti-gun advocates espouse as a template for the United States. British subjects have a long history of owning weapons for self-defense from criminals and oppression. The right to keep and bear arms originated in 1181 and was incorporated as part of common law. English Common law, from which many American laws were derived, had this to say about the right to arms:

The fifth and last auxiliary right of the subject, that I shall at present mention, is that of having arms for their defence, suitable to their condition and degree, and such as are allowed by law. Which is also declared by the same statute I W. & M. st.2. c.2. and is indeed a public allowance, under due restrictions, of the natural right of resistance and self-preservation, when the sanctions of society and laws are found insufficient to restrain the violence of oppression.” – Sir William Blackstone’s Commentaries on the Laws of England

Historical events led to incremental restrictions on arms in order to repress certain parts of the population, or in reaction to perceived dangers. Below is a very brief and non-comprehensive synopsis of these restrictions. Laws limiting arms were passed in:

1716, 1725, and 1746-following the Jacobite rebellions, these laws were designed specifically to disarm the Scottish Highlanders.

1824-following the Napoleonic wars, these laws were in reaction to an influx of armed ex-soldiers returning from the wars on the Continent.

1903-an act was passed regulating the sale and ownership of pistols

1920-an act was passed changing the right to bear arms, making it conditional upon the Home Office and Police. This act was in response to the large number of firearms available following World War I and the resurgence of militant groups in Ireland.

1937-this act extended firearms controls to short-barreled (less than 20″) shotguns and smooth-bore guns. It also decreed that self-defense was no longer a valid reason for application for a firearms license. It stated, “firearms cannot be regarded as a suitable means of protection and may be a source of danger.”

1968-this act consolidated all previous firearms regulation. It also introduced controls for regular shotguns and provided for their licensing. It prohibited anyone convicted of a crime from possessing firearms or ammunition.

On 19 August 1987 in Hungerford, England a 27-year-old man, who was likely suffering from acute schizophrenia, armed himself with two semi-automatic rifles and a handgun. He then randomly killed sixteen people and wounded fifteen others before killing himself. One of those he killed was his mother. Sound familiar? In the aftermath of the tragedy the Parliament passed the Firearms Act of 1988. This act banned the ownership of semi-automatic, center-fire, rifles and restricted shotguns with a capacity of more than three rounds.  Of note is that any shotgun containing more than three rounds is now referred to as “high or large capacity.” Just another example of what happens when terminologies are defined by politicians.

On 13 March 1996 in Dunblane, Scotland, a 43-year-old man, who was probably a pedophile, entered the Dunblane Primary School with four handguns. He killed seventeen people and then himself.  In response to this terrible crime the Parliament passed the Firearms Act of 1997. This act banned all “high-caliber” handguns in England, Scotland, and Wales. “High-power,” in this case means everything larger than single-shot .22 caliber firearms. The only exceptions are black-powder handguns and guns of “historic interest,” whose ammunition is no longer available.

Overview of UK gun restrictions

The UK has made it nearly impossible for the average person to keep or bear arms. However, without getting into statistics, there are still crimes committed with guns in the UK. UK gun crime Criminals acquire illegal guns, use antique guns, or retrofit flare or starters pistols for nefarious purposes. However, incidents of crimes involving guns have greatly decreased. This would be a good news story for gun-control advocates, except for the fact that knife crime has soared. Stabbings, slashings, and knife-point robbery have gotten out of control. What is the UK solution? Ban knives, including kitchen knives. Knife BanKnife Ban 2 You can’t make this stuff up. The bans never stop. Once you have decided that it is the government’s responsibility to take care of you, they will never stop “taking care of you.” What is the next ban, pointy scissors, beer bottles, lacrosse sticks or tire irons? Orwell is in his grave screaming, “I told you so!”

What the UK and Australia have done is to remove an accessible means of defense, firearms, from those who most need it; women, the elderly, the disabled and lawful citizens. In fact, if you use even a legally owned firearm to protect yourself you can expect to be prosecuted.- Farmer Prosecuted Both of these governments are an example to the US but not the one that gun control advocates want. They are illustrative of what happens when we allow the government to disarm the population. They have made those within society that are most in need of defense prey for those young and strong enough to victimize others.  Edged and impact weapons are the purview of the large and strong. Knives, clubs, broken bottles and bare hands; welcome back to the Middle Ages. If you are not strong enough to physically fight back you can become a victim. Humanity has its problems; there is a segment of society that will always prey upon the weak. The answer is not to disarm the weak. The answer is to point at evil in every form and call it what it is. To confront and confound evil at every turn. Look evil in the eyes and spit in its face. When you do these things, you should probably be armed.

In some respect those that argue, “no one is coming to take your guns,” are correct. No government agency is going door to door confiscating the firearms of American citizens. To issue such an order would be politically disastrous and possibly devastating to the country. –Part Three– As easy as it would be to order law enforcement to confiscate guns, it would be a much different matter for those expected to execute the order. In fact, I have a good friend who was a New York State law enforcement officer. He recently quit his job as a consequence of just such an order. (I am trying to get him to write an article about that experience) There are many within the security forces of the United States that take their oath to the Constitution very seriously.

However, there are plenty of people within the United States that are doing their very best to infringe upon the rights of citizens. They want to outlaw certain types of firearms, limit magazine capacities, marginalize and discredit legal gun owners. They want to make the ownership of firearms legally onerous and a financial hardship. Many want to regulate the legal bearing of arms to the point that it becomes nearly impossible or extremely expensive. Legislators have even gone so far as to make it a crime to bequeath legally owned firearms to family members following the death of the owner. In direct contravention of the Supreme Court they are attempting to outlaw “firearms in common usage.” They are not sending police officers to your house to seize your guns; they are conducting confiscation by inches.  Make no mistake; the intended result of this creeping incrementalism is a disarmed populace.

I do not believe that it is necessary to engage in politically charged, emotional rhetoric to successfully argue that there is a segment of the United States that wishes to disarm the populace. In fact, I believe such rhetoric would detract from the overall argument. I have laid out a compelling series of proofs by simply repeating the words and legislation of those that wish to disarm America. Any one of these proofs, taken singularly, could be construed as legitimately concerned, though misguided, leaders attempting to do what is right within the scope of their duties. However, taken as a whole these proofs become a window into a wider agenda; the deliberate removal from the American people of the means for the defense of self and nation.

The majorities of people who support the faction that wants to remove firearms from Americans are well intentioned but are misguided or ignorant about firearms. Most of these people can be reasoned with, can be engaged in civil conversation, and most importantly, exposed to firearms and possibly converted. I believe that competent firearms training can be a life changing event for many people. Please offer education in the place of ignorance and to as many as are willing to learn. –Training– The remainder of the anti-gun faction is bound by ideology and will not be reasoned with. These people are dangerous and must be opposed at every turn. They ARE coming to get your guns however they can. Slowly and surely they are attempting to disarm the populace of the Unites States of America. I leave you with C.S. Lewis:

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. “

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5 Responses to “Gun Control Debate Part Four: No one is trying to take your guns.”

  1. Those who advocate gun control
    will never stop taking. “They want their little guns” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFgzwYgsFic
    They are taking more control with their novocaine style of legislation as oppossed to honest, straightforward and honest proposals.

    “All things truly wicked start from innocence.”
    -Ernest Hemingway

    • The Novocaine analogy is about right. If you don’t pay attention you will feel no pain, until later when you discover that a part of you has been removed.
      Extra points for the Hemingway quote.

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